Here is the planning application for the new venue http://idox.hackney.gov.uk/WAM/showCaseFile.do?action=show&appType=Planning&appNumber=2012%2F0406 17 – 19 Dalston Lane London E8 3DF Change of use of basement and ground floor from Community Hall (Class D1) to Restaurant and Public House (Class A3/A4) and external alterations to front and rear facades at ground floor level including instalation of new doors windows and signage. Found on the Clapton Hart facebook page“
@ewebber Thanks for that. I’m guessing that it used to be a dance studio? Otherwise why the name? Still, I note that permission has been granted. It’ll be interesting to see what Antic’s designers make of the interor of a 30s building like that.
Having read about this on here, I had a look at the proposed site recently and saw the licence application in the window. The closing date for objections/feedback was 18th June, so it’s actually quite recent. The proposed hours were till 0000 Mon-Wed and till 0200 Thurs-Sat (can’t remember what it said for Sunday, sorry).
They’re opening on the 28th of November now, per this tweet (and several others like it). I can confirm they’ve been in touch with at least one Hackney brewery about beer. :)”
I peered through their door earlier today and I’ve absolutely no idea how they’re going to be ready for opening in just over two weeks – it’s still an empty shell!Maybe they’ll be going for the shabby building-site look?
@benjamin Yes, I had a look as well on my way home and thought the same. Let’s just hope they need a bit longer and don’t replicate that preposterous and lazy ‘we are squatters!’ look that already blights the Clapton Hart and surroundings on LCR. Antic – if you have the builders in the area anyway, could you please at least let them fix the broken windows at the Clapton Hart, even if you are not bringing back the upper floor back into good use in the near future?
@stroudgreenexport Got to agree with you about the Hart. After many years of neglect, it would be both sad and ironic if the original wooden detailing on the frontage were lost because the company that invested money in the pub decided to remove all the paint and leave it exposed to the elements.
Judging by the Clapton Hart (and their brief ownership of the Chequers in Walthamstow) \invested” is a bit strong: just enough work to pass building and licensing regulations. <cynicism> Antic buys old pubs makes enough money to cover building costs waits for land values to rise even more sells on. </cynicism>”
That may be so, but remember it was them that triggered the investment into Clapton by other businesses, as they showed there was money to be made, which subsequently had an effect on property prices. Theyre a canny firm who can spot when an area is about to move up, and I would suggest anyone interested in the next places to ‘gentrify’ should look at what theyre up to.
ewebber
Here is the planning application for the new venue http://idox.hackney.gov.uk/WAM/showCaseFile.do?action=show&appType=Planning&appNumber=2012%2F0406 17 – 19 Dalston Lane London E8 3DF Change of use of basement and ground floor from Community Hall (Class D1) to Restaurant and Public House (Class A3/A4) and external alterations to front and rear facades at ground floor level including instalation of new doors windows and signage. Found on the Clapton Hart facebook page“
ewebber
Formally Dalston Picture Palace 1910 – 1914 http://www.yeahhackney.com/dalston-picture-palace/
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benjamin
@ewebber Thanks for that. I’m guessing that it used to be a dance studio? Otherwise why the name? Still, I note that permission has been granted. It’ll be interesting to see what Antic’s designers make of the interor of a 30s building like that.
benjamin
It’s been a few months now since permission was granted for this. It’d be nice to see work start.Any ideas when @fiantic ?
jskinner
Having read about this on here, I had a look at the proposed site recently and saw the licence application in the window. The closing date for objections/feedback was 18th June, so it’s actually quite recent. The proposed hours were till 0000 Mon-Wed and till 0200 Thurs-Sat (can’t remember what it said for Sunday, sorry).
benjamin
@jskinner Sorry, I was referring to the planning application, not the licensing which as you correctly say is still pending. If I’m reading it correctly, it should be decided by the 18th July;http://apps.hackney.gov.uk/servapps/lpr/?tab=1&ps=58027&pn=1&pi=2“
jskinner
Well, I know nothing of such things but I presume they wouldn’t start building anything till they knew the licence was okay, no?
benjamin
It looks as though Antic’s plans are to expand the bar to the upper floors and add a B&B.New planning application has gone in;\Change of use of first second and third floor levels from an Office (Class B1) to a drinking establishment (A4) at first and second floors with bed and breakfast facilities at third floor level (4 rooms) (Class C1). Opening hours of bar (ground first and second floors): 09:00 to midnight Monday to Sunday and Bank Holidays. Erection of a rear extension at second floor level juliet balcony to the rear second floor level and installation of new windows to the rear first floor level. “2012/2337http://apps.hackney.gov.uk/servapps/Northgate/PlanningExplorer/Generic/StdDetails.aspx?PT=Planning%20Applications%20On-Line&TYPE=PL/PlanningPK.xml&PARAM0=177580&XSLT=/servapps/Northgate/PlanningExplorer/SiteFiles/Skins/Hackney/xslt/PL/PLDetails.xslt&FT=Planning%20Application%20Details&PUBLIC=Y&XMLSIDE=/servapps/Northgate/PlanningExplorer/SiteFiles/Skins/Hackney/Menus/PL.xml&DAURI=PLANNING“
ewebber
This is now set to be a tapas bar, details here: http://www.yeahhackney.com/gremio-de-dalston-new-tapas-bar/
ewebber
Looks like this is back on!
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line1
A bit more info herehttp://dalstonist.co.uk/pub-chain-antic-london-is-opening-its-latest-venture-on-dalston-lane/“
quitepeculiar
They’re opening on the 28th of November now, per this tweet (and several others like it). I can confirm they’ve been in touch with at least one Hackney brewery about beer. :)”
benjamin
I peered through their door earlier today and I’ve absolutely no idea how they’re going to be ready for opening in just over two weeks – it’s still an empty shell!Maybe they’ll be going for the shabby building-site look?
stroudgreenexport
@benjamin Yes, I had a look as well on my way home and thought the same. Let’s just hope they need a bit longer and don’t replicate that preposterous and lazy ‘we are squatters!’ look that already blights the Clapton Hart and surroundings on LCR. Antic – if you have the builders in the area anyway, could you please at least let them fix the broken windows at the Clapton Hart, even if you are not bringing back the upper floor back into good use in the near future?
benjamin
@stroudgreenexport Got to agree with you about the Hart. After many years of neglect, it would be both sad and ironic if the original wooden detailing on the frontage were lost because the company that invested money in the pub decided to remove all the paint and leave it exposed to the elements.
oh-no-clapton
Judging by the Clapton Hart (and their brief ownership of the Chequers in Walthamstow) \invested” is a bit strong: just enough work to pass building and licensing regulations. <cynicism> Antic buys old pubs makes enough money to cover building costs waits for land values to rise even more sells on. </cynicism>”
GavinRedknap
That may be so, but remember it was them that triggered the investment into Clapton by other businesses, as they showed there was money to be made, which subsequently had an effect on property prices. Theyre a canny firm who can spot when an area is about to move up, and I would suggest anyone interested in the next places to ‘gentrify’ should look at what theyre up to.
benjamin
They should still paint exterior woodwork though.